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MozUpdate is dead

Monday March 28, 2005 @ 12:02 PM (PST)

The Mozilla Project has stopped providing .zip versions of Firefox and Thunderbird releases, thus rendering MozUpdate virtually useless. I wouldn’t complain—Mozilla is free software, after all—except that Firefox and Thunderbird’s installers have a history of clobbering settings and deleting files.

I’ve been using MozUpdate exclusively to install Firefox and Thunderbird on Windows machines for almost two years now, and although my opinion is obviously biased seeing as how I wrote it, I think it’s far better than the half-assed, buggy official installers, not to mention easier to use and far more convenient.

MozUpdate depends on those .zip archives though, and since I don’t have the resources or the desire to provide .zip archives of Firefox and Thunderbird myself, it looks like MozUpdate is going to have to die. My apologies to anyone who used it. I’ve always enjoyed developing it, and I had some big plans for its future, but for now I guess we’ll all have to make do with the official installer.

Mozilla is still providing .zip versions of nightly builds, but limiting MozUpdate to installing nightlies would eliminate one of its most appealing features: the ability to try a nightly build with the safety net of being able to revert back to an official release with just a few clicks, preserving all your preferences (assuming the nightly build wasn’t so buggy that it deleted them, of course).

I’m going to install Firefox 1.0.2 now. Hopefully it won’t delete anything I care about. Wish me luck.

Comments

I installed Firefox 1.0.2 at work today. The installer killed my joy, destroyed my workplace, and ate the children I don't even have. It's just horrible. That's why I'm switching to NeoFox.

Monday March 28, 2005 @ 11:42 PM (PST) Posted by rdude

Thanks for the heads up, I was gonna install it. But I'll think I'll stick to 1.0PR Release. Don't ever remembering IE causing this hassle when upgrading. ;) Other then trying to remove the spyware it lets in. Maybe OSS isn't all cracked up as it claims to be (for some projects anyway).

Tuesday March 29, 2005 @ 05:23 AM (PST) Posted by TimTim
I normally keep my complaining down to a minimum when I get things for FREE.

Not to mention the security holes that are in 1.0PR
Tuesday March 29, 2005 @ 02:12 PM (PST) Posted by slippingaway
Sorry to disappoint you, but I haven't used MozUpdate since firefox got the built in updater. MozUpdate was very nice, but it became impractical after the update checks. It tells me when there is an update and it downloads and installs it (after I say ok). I have also never had any problems with it deleting something of changing settings.

On Gentoo Linux, it always gets it in and 'emerge -uDav world' and, and of course, settings are never lost.
Friday April 01, 2005 @ 01:51 PM (PST) Posted by electrofreak0110
The built-in update function tends to be slow about informing you of updates. When 1.0.1 came out, Mozilla staggered the update notifications to save bandwidth, so some users didn't get notified until weeks after the update was actually available. The 1.0.2 update was much quicker, but still not as quick as my track record with MozUpdate. Since MozUpdate just needed me to point it at the new version, I was able to update it within minutes of the release announcement.

And of course, except for minor patches, the Firefox updater just downloads and runs the buggy installer, so you're right back in the same boat.

If you wanted the best of both worlds, you could wait until Firefox notified you of an update, then run MozUpdate. MozUpdate could download and install the new version much faster than Firefox could download and run the official installer, and with MozUpdate it would take as few as four clicks to perform the entire update.
Friday April 01, 2005 @ 02:10 PM (PST) Posted by Ryan Grove
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