The eclectic musings of a bitter software engineer.

Memory (and my lack of it)

Thursday March 25, 2004 @ 06:39 PM (PST)

A few weeks ago I went out for a drink with an old friend from high school who I hadn’t seen in several years and we talked a little about how weird it was that we couldn’t remember what it was like being around people that we used to spend a lot of time with. I run into people I used to know and it’s like I’m meeting them for the first time; I have no relationship memory. I remember the people, but none of the glue that used to stick us together. Know what I mean?

On weekends, when I sleep in, I like to spend an hour or two waking up. It makes it easier for me when I take the return to consciousness gradually, at a slow pace. I often end up lying in bed trying to remember things. People, mostly. And I’m always surprised to find that I have no trouble remembering events and general hazy feelings, but I can never remember what people meant to me. It’s like I’m looking at someone else’s life from an outside vantage point.

I’ve started to realize that this is apparent in the present, too. I’m generally good-natured and happy, and I enjoy time with my friends and family, but none of it sticks, emotionally. It’s like I’m a slippery surface and feelings just slide off, and I forget them.

A few years ago I tried to make a long distance relationship work with someone who I cared for a great deal, and I literally kept forgetting she was there. I would visit her occasionally, but every visit was like a brand new starting place, as if I hadn’t met her before, and it was always incredibly awkward. I tried to explain it to her, but I don’t think I really understood what was happening at the time. Eventually, we broke up, and I was so cold and heartless and distant—literally —that I’m amazed I didn’t realize the extent of it until now. And of course, now I feel terrible about it.

I’m starting to see why LiveJournal is so popular. It’s like a distributed memory cache. Not only does it allow you to preserve your original thoughts and feelings as they occur, it also makes them public, so they get propagated among a community of people you know. Things become harder to forget. Interesting.

Not that LiveJournal is for me. It isn’t. Sharing all my thoughts publicly would kill me (or get me killed). But I think I may start recording my life privately. Maybe it’ll come in handy for Future Me.

Comments

It would be interesting what the rest of the folks on the INTP mailing list would say to this post. Perhaps you should try joining and see what they say? I'm pretty sure you'll encounter a lot of nods on this phenomenon, and a general consensus that INTPs are often misunderstood in an emotional sense and perhaps occasionally considered rude and insensitive by their peers. A word of caution, though: Being an INTP list, some of the people there have a bit of a strange sense of humor, so always read replies twice before getting defensive about your position. ;o)

Thursday March 25, 2004 @ 07:27 PM (PST) Posted by GreyStork

hmm

YOU had a DRINK? :)

But at any rate, that's a very interesting observation. I wonder whether Greystork has the same thing, since he attributes it to INTPness? Myself, I don't have any trouble recalling the emotions attached to people (there are probably people I'd have a hard time not punching if I ran into them on the street). Of course, sometimes you can't slip right back into the relationships where you left off -- but sometimes you can. There are people I don't see or talk to for years, and then I talk to them for six hours over coffee and it feels just the same.
Friday March 26, 2004 @ 08:39 AM (PST) Posted by Eilonwy
Well, I do have the same thing, at least to some degree, but I don't consider it pathological or problematic in any way. It's just a natural thing. When you were hanging out with your friends in the good old days, you were feeling differently. You were in a different emotional and cognitive context, and you hadn't experienced the things that have made you evolve into the different person you are today. Recollecting emotional content is very difficult when you attempt to do so out of context.

I think the people you slip right back into a relationship with are those whom you experience as having the most characteristic personalities. So when you encounter those people, and they haven't changed markedly, their characteristic mannerisms, rhythm of speech and line of reasoning constitutes the needed context. I have friends like that too.

Perhaps the reason why I'm not overly alarmed by this occasional inability to recall emotional content is simply that my memory is fairly bad in general. I'm quite used to not being able to remember things, and it doesn't worry me so much. That, incidentally, is a probable cause for having developed my analytical skills. I have to analyze things to reach a conclusion whenever my memory abandons me, which, as many of you who know me will agree, is a frequent occurrence. I've become good at inventing wheels because I can never remember how I did it last time.

Sunday March 28, 2004 @ 03:48 AM (PST) Posted by GreyStork
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