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Internet Explorer 8 doesn't matter

Thursday December 06, 2007 @ 11:55 AM (PST)

Microsoft's complete silence on the status of Internet Explorer 8 has resulted in much wailing and gnashing of teeth from web developers, but ultimately it's not an issue worth getting worked up about (note: the Ryan G. quoted in that article isn't me).

The status of IE8 is unimportant. Whether or not IE8 will be less of a piece of shit than IE6 and IE7 is unimportant. What is important is that in spite of the release of IE7 over a year ago, IE6 is still the world's dominant web browser, and it's holding the web back.

Even if Microsoft were to release a fully standards-compliant IE8 tomorrow, it wouldn't solve this problem, because IE users have no interest in upgrading until they're forced. The people who are still using IE6 are grandparents and casual computer users — people who don't necessarily know or care what a web browser is — and corporate users who have no control over what browser their IT department lets them use.

Microsoft needs to figure out how to get these users to upgrade, and they need to do it now. They botched the IE7 release utterly by giving it a horrid, unfamiliar UI that alienated casual users and by failing to address many of the concerns of web developers, thus providing virtually no incentive for anyone to upgrade to it or develop for it. They also tied IE7 too tightly to Vista, which has itself been an utter failure, so Windows XP and IE6 are still shipping on many (possibly even most) new PCs.

Unless Microsoft relearns how to develop usable, marketable software, it won't matter how good IE8 is or how soon it arrives, because web developers will still have to develop for the lowest common denominator.

Comments

Ryan, I'd be interested in learning more about your definition of "failure".

Thursday December 06, 2007 @ 12:49 PM (PST) Posted by Rohan
Thursday December 06, 2007 @ 01:01 PM (PST) Posted by wonko

A lot of my clients are stuck with IE6 because they use some kind of web-based software for their business that isn't compatible with IE7 or anything else for that matter.

Thursday December 06, 2007 @ 03:34 PM (PST) Posted by Nightshade

Unfortunately, many IT shops have little incentive to reinvent their policy files. IE 7 adoption stagnated about 3 months ago, completely killing any hope of IE 6 burning parties come March when it was projected usage would be

Thursday December 06, 2007 @ 03:50 PM (PST) Posted by Jakob Heuser

I think that IE7's userbase would grow a lot faster if it didn't suck so much. I have avoided it like the plague after seeing it, and have helped several less careful people uninstall it.

Tuesday December 11, 2007 @ 12:22 PM (PST) Posted by D

I agreed with you until you said that Vista was an 'utter failure'. I've been using it for a while now and if I had to go back to XP I'd cry. IE7 does have major design flaws, and yes it did fall somewhere in the middle of helping web designers and converting people from IE6, but come on. Only Apple can make people switch software.

Wednesday December 19, 2007 @ 07:06 AM (PST) Posted by Mike

I was referring to its failure in terms of sales; I didn't mean to imply that it was a bad OS. Although I can't say I miss it since switching to Mac OS X.

Wednesday December 19, 2007 @ 10:08 AM (PST) Posted by wonko
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